Mississippi Casinos & Gambling Forum - Poker, Pari-mutuel

pritz · Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 22

I was playing a home game a few hours ago and went all-in preflop (short stacked, and had to make a move) with J Q. My friend calls me with 3 7. I didn't hit any of my cards, and he hits a 7 on the river (Moneymaker'd!!). I was so angry at why anyone with any sense would call someone else's all-in with 3 7.

lork · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 19

I had a similar call against me. At a home tournament I'm short stacked and get AKo. I go all in, with all but one person folding. He calls my all in, might I mind you that he had to put up about half of the chips he had if not more, he calls my all in with 34o!?!?!?!?! Of course he grabs a 4 on the turn and I'm sent packing.
Now I'm no expert, but my general answer would be that home games have players (a ton of them) that play very loose. With a loose player you never know what cards they might play.

ballen · Joined: 31 Dec 2005 Posts: 16

guys, i have seen a ton of times in home games. you have to be careful because unlike the ones on tv......you WILL get called. and busted when you shouldnt have

arcfinn · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 6

the main point you made there was "short stacked" how short in comparison to the caller were you, maybe they just figured it was worth it and didn't put you on that great a hand, i know what you mean though, life's a bitch but it happens!

pritz · Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 22

His stack was 1.5x bigger than mine, so it wasn't much bigger really...

sours · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 7

Saw the exact same hand last night at a multi freeroll on Prima. Guy called an all in preflop with 7 3o. Made the boat 7s over 3s and took out at least 1 if not two people. Brutal.

sours · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 7

I don't understand your frustration; were you expecting to steal the blinds and got upset for getting called, or were you upset for getting outdrawn?

No matter what they hold you can't blame anyone for calling your bluff; and your friend may be correct in his call (if he is BB, or allready called the BB), 73 is only a 1 to 2 underdog to almost any unpaired hand and sometimes pot odds would justify calling with 73; especially when you are "short stacked, and had to make a move".

If you think QJ is a great hand and shouldn't be beaten, I suggest you to read some books; heads up more than 20% of the hands are favorite against QJ and more importantly QJ is a huge underdog to any premium hand other than AK.

pritz · Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 22

I'm not bothered by it any more. It was just at the moment, I was befuddled why anyone would call with that hand preflop. I just got outdrawn. Oh well, that's Poker..

quickie · Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Posts: 2

Since he's your friend I guess you could always ask him.

pritz · Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 22

I know he's a bad player, he's rarely ever won any money when we play with the guys. Doesn't matter, he didn't win that home tourney anyways.

chris · Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 23

I like putting my bad beats down in writing, makes getting over them easier. I'm getting better at dealing with bad beats, but it still sucks when someone takes all your money as a big underdog. However, these idiots who call all-in with crap are really my NL bread and butter.

It's also kind of comical to hear the poor players theories on poker-the "You gotta be in it to win it" and "Poker is all about having balls". To which I silently reply- there's a fine line between balls and stupidity, and when you cross it, I'll be there so you can pay me off. That's possibly the greatest thing about poker. The occasional reward for bad play that just reinforces the bad play.

johnf · Joined: 31 Dec 2005 Posts: 19

It could be those players making the comments after that beat were trying to encourage the poor player to continue to make more bad plays and put you on tilt. Praising the player that made the bad call did upset you. The player making the bad call may have really believed the praise and would make the same play again against a superior hand. Your best move in that position is to take a deep breath and either not make any reply or just say nice hand or good move. You don't want this kind of player to doubt his play you want to encourage it.

norshvind · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 19

Beats like that happen to us all. A couple days ago I was playing a home tournament with some of my friends. I was short-stacked and decided to move all in with my A-J (the first hand I'd seen in a long time). However unwise the move may have been, a buddy of mine called without looking at his cards. To my delight he flips up 3-5o. To my utter dismay he hits 2 pair and wins. That's poker.
The thing about hands like that is, it really is ok, albeit hard to swallow, because it encourages idiots to make bad moves. And like the post above this one says the last thing you can do is go on tilt.

razor · Joined: 21 Dec 2005 Posts: 11

A guy who doesn't win very often. Betcha he didn't win! (Though I might get rivered on that bet)

ThomasR · Joined: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 60

I wouldn't have gone all-in on that!

Then again, although you had the better cards starting out things change dramatically with every card that is turned. You miss and he hits, it's game over at that stage. I prefer to have something in hand before going all in, even if it's onl a low-mid pocket pair, or a high pair between my cards and the flop... I won't go all-in on the back of nothing.