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jorpot



Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 7
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:47 pm    Post subject: Are you still going to call it? Reply with quote

Lets say your in a nl ring game. you raise on the button with QJ, bb moves in with AK. your about a 65%-35% dog, so around 1.85-1. if the pot is giving you 2-1 are you still going to call it, even though you know you dont have the best hand? the pot if offering you the correct price so does this make it a correct call?
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chris



Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 23
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've called people that have played back at me while I'm holding QJ. If you are willing to make a play stealing a blind you should be ready to have a pretty good idea when someone plays back at you. I have a hard time laying down that hand because I know I'm not going to get that money back. If I call, even if I am a 2:1 dog in most situations, I know I still have a chance to get it back and more. Howard Lederer talked briefly about this once, making a call even though you know or think you know you are behind. Just because you are behind in a hand doesn't mean you shouldn't call a strong bet(certainly you shouldn't do it too often!). I think alot of us do it subconciously when the stakes aren't that high but what happens when the stakes are highered or when you are put to the test for your entire stack?
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ThomasR



Joined: 19 Dec 2005
Posts: 60
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on the situation - is it going to put you at a disadvantage severely if you don't make the pot? How are things going in the game, are you having a little luck on your side or not?

Nothing wrong with calling, but you can't always go just on the basis of the maths.
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BigAl



Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 9
PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably not unless I have the chips to spare. If I've got the lead, then thats the sort of call I'm more willing to make as it won't take me out the game but it might do him.

The maths aren't yet in your favour, but the turn of a card or two can soon change that, and don't forget it works both ways.
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